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		<title>By: Patricia S.</title>
		<link>http://www.connectivism.ca/?p=249&#038;cpage=1#comment-40721</link>
		<dc:creator>Patricia S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 15:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks George :)
I´ve enjoyed very much the ideas that you share here with us.
I´m taking the Open Course on Future Trends in Education, and making connections with the connectivism i found these jewel. Do you speak spanish? My english is well , but no sooooo good. I´m trying, sometimes that´s a limitant in flavoring all the sustance of your super ideas.
I want to continue investigating around education and how to improve the f2f socialization so students get more involved in their learning process, for me they are the stars of the story.
Thanks again
Cariños
Paty :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks George <img src='http://www.connectivism.ca/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
I´ve enjoyed very much the ideas that you share here with us.<br />
I´m taking the Open Course on Future Trends in Education, and making connections with the connectivism i found these jewel. Do you speak spanish? My english is well , but no sooooo good. I´m trying, sometimes that´s a limitant in flavoring all the sustance of your super ideas.<br />
I want to continue investigating around education and how to improve the f2f socialization so students get more involved in their learning process, for me they are the stars of the story.<br />
Thanks again<br />
Cariños<br />
Paty <img src='http://www.connectivism.ca/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Bassill</title>
		<link>http://www.connectivism.ca/?p=249&#038;cpage=1#comment-37887</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Bassill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 17:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>George, thanks for this article. What I really like about what you do is that you link through your blog, and through the way you set up your page, to a world of additional information that anyone can read and expand their learning on the topics you write about.  You model what a teacher/facilitator might do help people learn to learn.

I would offer a couple of ideas for this discussion.

First, we need to segment our thinking about distribution and uses of technology between high poverty areas in a country, and the rest of the country. In high poverty areas access to technology in the home, and the school, along with the resources to maintain and constantly upgrade the technology, and mentors in the family and community to model uses of the technology, is far less than in more affluent areas. 

Second, I think you point about the cost to sustain uses of technology being higher than the initial costs of acquiring it, it really important, especially as public funds for eduction become more and more difficult to expand. I would propose a solution that is a step beyond your suggestion that technology not be integrated in the classroom. I would suggest that an effort be made to use the technology that is in the business community, but not being highly used in the after work and weekend hours.  

How many organizations in the geography of a school use computers for work, and constantly invest in the upgrade of their technology, because of it&#039;s business applications? Imagine if kids were able to spend a few hours on a weekend, or an evening, with a business volunteer, at a computer workstation.  If the volunteer were trained to facilitate learning, and coach the youth to use on-line content created by professionals, their own practical experience using technology might be a greater motivator for student learning than that of a classroom teacher with little experience of applying technology beyond the classroom.  

If such a partnership were developed it could dramatically lower the cost to the school of obtaining and maintaining the technology, and provide relevant associations between learning and work that might motivate more kids to become more dedicated learners.

I&#039;m sure there would be many obstacles to this, but the potential benefits and cost savings should not be overlooked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George, thanks for this article. What I really like about what you do is that you link through your blog, and through the way you set up your page, to a world of additional information that anyone can read and expand their learning on the topics you write about.  You model what a teacher/facilitator might do help people learn to learn.</p>
<p>I would offer a couple of ideas for this discussion.</p>
<p>First, we need to segment our thinking about distribution and uses of technology between high poverty areas in a country, and the rest of the country. In high poverty areas access to technology in the home, and the school, along with the resources to maintain and constantly upgrade the technology, and mentors in the family and community to model uses of the technology, is far less than in more affluent areas. </p>
<p>Second, I think you point about the cost to sustain uses of technology being higher than the initial costs of acquiring it, it really important, especially as public funds for eduction become more and more difficult to expand. I would propose a solution that is a step beyond your suggestion that technology not be integrated in the classroom. I would suggest that an effort be made to use the technology that is in the business community, but not being highly used in the after work and weekend hours.  </p>
<p>How many organizations in the geography of a school use computers for work, and constantly invest in the upgrade of their technology, because of it&#8217;s business applications? Imagine if kids were able to spend a few hours on a weekend, or an evening, with a business volunteer, at a computer workstation.  If the volunteer were trained to facilitate learning, and coach the youth to use on-line content created by professionals, their own practical experience using technology might be a greater motivator for student learning than that of a classroom teacher with little experience of applying technology beyond the classroom.  </p>
<p>If such a partnership were developed it could dramatically lower the cost to the school of obtaining and maintaining the technology, and provide relevant associations between learning and work that might motivate more kids to become more dedicated learners.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure there would be many obstacles to this, but the potential benefits and cost savings should not be overlooked.</p>
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		<title>By: Janet.Rangou</title>
		<link>http://www.connectivism.ca/?p=249&#038;cpage=1#comment-36206</link>
		<dc:creator>Janet.Rangou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 01:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks George,

This article was very inspiring to me. I could not agree more to the fact that systematic changes are needed for tertiary insitution to take into consideration technology now and for the future. Our educational systems must be aligned to societal changes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks George,</p>
<p>This article was very inspiring to me. I could not agree more to the fact that systematic changes are needed for tertiary insitution to take into consideration technology now and for the future. Our educational systems must be aligned to societal changes.</p>
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		<title>By: Etelberto</title>
		<link>http://www.connectivism.ca/?p=249&#038;cpage=1#comment-31474</link>
		<dc:creator>Etelberto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 15:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I´m happy for Portugal being inspiring your steps towards a new learning. In the moment that Europe is designing a new strategy EU 2020, focusing on Education &amp; Training concerns, your notes leave an impressive call for our reflexivity on the future of learning. (european initiative to be discussed next May and promoted by the IPTS/JRC from Sevilla (you remember Christine Redecker).
My humbled thougt is for the COntext and Environments, specially concerned with riched moments for envolving learning leaders and teaching/training professionals. Technology has that effect but the instructional (pedagogical) designer must have always in mind that requiremet.
 I will share your script within our Lisboa Learning Working Group for a i 2011.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I´m happy for Portugal being inspiring your steps towards a new learning. In the moment that Europe is designing a new strategy EU 2020, focusing on Education &amp; Training concerns, your notes leave an impressive call for our reflexivity on the future of learning. (european initiative to be discussed next May and promoted by the IPTS/JRC from Sevilla (you remember Christine Redecker).<br />
My humbled thougt is for the COntext and Environments, specially concerned with riched moments for envolving learning leaders and teaching/training professionals. Technology has that effect but the instructional (pedagogical) designer must have always in mind that requiremet.<br />
 I will share your script within our Lisboa Learning Working Group for a i 2011.</p>
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		<title>By: Anna Varna</title>
		<link>http://www.connectivism.ca/?p=249&#038;cpage=1#comment-30711</link>
		<dc:creator>Anna Varna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2010 06:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An excellent article. In my country( Greece) there is a similar to Portugal&#039;s introduction of technology in schools, at a smaller scale though. Technical problems are soon overcome but pedagogical one are still burning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An excellent article. In my country( Greece) there is a similar to Portugal&#8217;s introduction of technology in schools, at a smaller scale though. Technical problems are soon overcome but pedagogical one are still burning.</p>
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		<title>By: Linda Peplar-Chambers</title>
		<link>http://www.connectivism.ca/?p=249&#038;cpage=1#comment-30616</link>
		<dc:creator>Linda Peplar-Chambers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 09:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Learners need technology!  They are bombarded with technology on a daily basis.  We should say that they are technological natives.  We, the adults, on the other hand shy away from the use of technology.  We should say that we are technological tourists.  How can an educator educate a learner using only talk, chalk and the occasional technological devise and expect to inspire/challenge a learner who multi-tasks with technology 24/7!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Learners need technology!  They are bombarded with technology on a daily basis.  We should say that they are technological natives.  We, the adults, on the other hand shy away from the use of technology.  We should say that we are technological tourists.  How can an educator educate a learner using only talk, chalk and the occasional technological devise and expect to inspire/challenge a learner who multi-tasks with technology 24/7!</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Hamon</title>
		<link>http://www.connectivism.ca/?p=249&#038;cpage=1#comment-29739</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith Hamon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 15:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>George, thanks for the provocative call to action. I was most intrigued by your almost tangential reference to the mechanics of large-scale policy making, which strikes me as still a serious problem. I think that we still do not trust the wisdom of crowds and the kinds of decision-making, problem-solving processes made  possible by Web 2.0.  Do we not still rely too much on the elected official of whatever party and the designated expert in whatever field to make our decisions for us? I don&#039;t think we yet believe that in fact we can gather electronically and make large-scale decisions that affect our lives and cultures.

I&#039;m most encouraged, however, by our youngers, who do indeed believe that they can make just such decisions and who are just slightly befuddled and even more frustrated  that we olders can&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George, thanks for the provocative call to action. I was most intrigued by your almost tangential reference to the mechanics of large-scale policy making, which strikes me as still a serious problem. I think that we still do not trust the wisdom of crowds and the kinds of decision-making, problem-solving processes made  possible by Web 2.0.  Do we not still rely too much on the elected official of whatever party and the designated expert in whatever field to make our decisions for us? I don&#8217;t think we yet believe that in fact we can gather electronically and make large-scale decisions that affect our lives and cultures.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m most encouraged, however, by our youngers, who do indeed believe that they can make just such decisions and who are just slightly befuddled and even more frustrated  that we olders can&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: José Mota</title>
		<link>http://www.connectivism.ca/?p=249&#038;cpage=1#comment-29305</link>
		<dc:creator>José Mota</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lots of food for thought. I&#039;d highlight your statement that &quot;It’s the classroom model that needs rethinking, not computer use in classrooms.&quot; Schools have been struggling with the introduction of computers in the classroom partly, I think, because of this. 

I totally agree with your view of using technology to extend learning beyond classroom walls, not have every student with a computer working in class. For one, it&#039;s a nightmare to get everything to work, and it&#039;s a missed oportunity to do other things you can only do in a face-to-face environment. 

Class time should be used for modelling, tutoring, claryfing, organizing, reflecting together, developing good communication and collaboration skills, etc. One or two computers with an Internet connection, a digital board or a video projector are very useful in class, but then students should work online on their own or use a media lab.

There has been a very livey discussion about the merits of the Magellan project, as you might guess, especially since it&#039;s geared towards very young students. My impression is that the results are way too low for the investment made. I count myself among those who think that applying it to equip schools and train teachers would foster much better results. Of course, we still would need to change a lot in the way most schools and teachers view learning, cutting lecture time, having more workshop-like activities for students, more individual tutoring, more learning connected to real-life experiences (and the list goes on).

On a side note, it was great to finally have the opportunity to chat with you at Futurália, where Morten Paulsen and Paulo Simões were presenting. Unfortunately, I wasn&#039;t able to attend this great talk you gave right next door.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lots of food for thought. I&#8217;d highlight your statement that &#8220;It’s the classroom model that needs rethinking, not computer use in classrooms.&#8221; Schools have been struggling with the introduction of computers in the classroom partly, I think, because of this. </p>
<p>I totally agree with your view of using technology to extend learning beyond classroom walls, not have every student with a computer working in class. For one, it&#8217;s a nightmare to get everything to work, and it&#8217;s a missed oportunity to do other things you can only do in a face-to-face environment. </p>
<p>Class time should be used for modelling, tutoring, claryfing, organizing, reflecting together, developing good communication and collaboration skills, etc. One or two computers with an Internet connection, a digital board or a video projector are very useful in class, but then students should work online on their own or use a media lab.</p>
<p>There has been a very livey discussion about the merits of the Magellan project, as you might guess, especially since it&#8217;s geared towards very young students. My impression is that the results are way too low for the investment made. I count myself among those who think that applying it to equip schools and train teachers would foster much better results. Of course, we still would need to change a lot in the way most schools and teachers view learning, cutting lecture time, having more workshop-like activities for students, more individual tutoring, more learning connected to real-life experiences (and the list goes on).</p>
<p>On a side note, it was great to finally have the opportunity to chat with you at Futurália, where Morten Paulsen and Paulo Simões were presenting. Unfortunately, I wasn&#8217;t able to attend this great talk you gave right next door.</p>
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		<title>By: Anke</title>
		<link>http://www.connectivism.ca/?p=249&#038;cpage=1#comment-29164</link>
		<dc:creator>Anke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 21:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will treasure your thoughts about leaving technology out of the classroom. That makes so much sense to me. Will think further on that road!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will treasure your thoughts about leaving technology out of the classroom. That makes so much sense to me. Will think further on that road!</p>
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		<title>By: Fernando</title>
		<link>http://www.connectivism.ca/?p=249&#038;cpage=1#comment-29028</link>
		<dc:creator>Fernando</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 05:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks George!
It was a pleasure met and hear you in the conference and in the Scientific meeting of the Observatory. And it is a pleasure too read this well structured  and rich thoughts about the issues present in the event and in the school&#039;s discussion of our days.
Best regards,
Fernando</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks George!<br />
It was a pleasure met and hear you in the conference and in the Scientific meeting of the Observatory. And it is a pleasure too read this well structured  and rich thoughts about the issues present in the event and in the school&#8217;s discussion of our days.<br />
Best regards,<br />
Fernando</p>
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